NileValleyPeoples: SOme African sub-groups are the tallest people in the world- the Dinka

[b]Tropical African growth trends are generally more than others unless hindered by enviro factors[/b]- quote:

"..but there seems to be a consistent pattern in all three groups.. Children of African stock are more advanced in growth at all ages than European children unless their growth has been restricted by environmental factors, and it therefore seems likely that infection would have been the main factor responsible for this slowing down in height growth.."

--Floud et al 1990 Health, Health and History

[b]Dutch height is comparatively recent due to health care and nutrition. quote: [/b]
"the Dutch are not tall because they need extra height to survive the cold.. they didn't start getting tall until about 150 years ago, so their height can't possibly be an evolutionary adaptation... Dutch height is a tribute to their health care and social services systems.."
--The New Yorker 80 I 1-9 2004.

[b]Dinka height statistics are often cited from 1963, but this ignores much improved nutritional conditions overall for East Africans since then. 1995 stats draw from impoverished, starving refugees not a full snapshot of the population. Just as Europeans are not sitting still, neither are Africans [/b]

Rogers and Bainbridge cited almost 6 feet for the Dinka in 1963, but
scholars Eveleth and Tanner using a broader dataset, and Floud et al,
report measurements that place the Dinka taller than other populations.
And these measurements increase in favorable health and nutritional
conditions which are much improved for the Dinka overall since 1963

^ D. F. Roberts, D. R. Bainbridge: Nilotic physique. American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 1963, p. 341-370

Dinka heights in a 1995 refugee camp study (CHalli 1995) average almost 6 feet, but this was a refugee camp situation almost 20 years ago, drawing upon a small sample. This does not reflect the overall Dinka situation, nor does it capture changes in height due to better nutrition among the Dinka. Just as EUropeans are not standing still in height gains from nutrition and other actors, neither are Africans remaining static.

QUOTE: "..but there seems to be a consistent pattern in all three groups.. Children of African stock are more advanced in growth at all ages than European children unless their growth has been restricted by environmental factors, and it therefore seems likely that infection would have been the main factor responsible for this slowing down in height growth.."
--Floud et al 1990 Health, Health and History

[b]Tropical African height is consistently more over human history going back to ancient Turkana boy [/b]:

"At eight years old, Turkana Boy was already five feet three inches tall. If he had lived to adulthood, he would have stood more than six feet tall. People who live in hot climates tend to be tall like Turkana Boy. Over generations, tallness evolved in populations living in hot climates because a long body exposes a lot of skin to the air, making it easy to cool off."
-- Peter Robertshaw, Jill Rubalcaba 2005 The Early Human World. Oxford University PRess.

[b]Small sample sizes do not show the full range of African heights as the scientific literature notes: quote-[/b]
"The Turkana data are rather uneven probably due to small sample sizes."
--Worldwide Variation in Human Growth. 1991. Phyllis B. Eveleth, James M. Tanner

In any event, historical data shows certain African groups WITHIN nations
are the tallest people in the world. They are not sitting static and also have seen benefits of better nutrition.

[IMG]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8138/africansthetallest.jpg[/IMG]

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IN DUTCH:
Hoe lang is Nederland nog het langste volk ter wereld?

quote: Nederlanders zijn het langste volk ter wereld, maar hoe lang nog? Uit onderzoek blijkt dat de gemiddelde lengte van Nederlanders de laatste 13 jaar niet is toegenomen en dat is uitzonderlijk. De afgelopen 160 jaar is dit niet eerder gebeurd.

http://nos.nl/video/163559-hoe-lang-is-nederland-nog-het-langste-volk-ter-wereld.html

Nederlanders steeds langer en zwaarder

De volwassen inwoner van Nederland is gemiddeld 173,5 cm lang. Volwassen mannen zijn gemiddeld 180 cm lang, 13 cm langer dan volwassen vrouwen.

Hoger opgeleiden zijn gemiddeld langer dan lager opgeleiden. Het verschil tussen het laagste en hoogste opleidingsniveau bedraagt bijna 7 cm. Dat is voor een deel te verklaren doordat mannen en jongeren in het algemeen beter opgeleid zijn dan vrouwen en ouderen. Als daarmee rekening wordt gehouden, verschillen de laagst en hoogst opgeleiden nog altijd 3 cm in lichaamslengte.

Lichaamslengte van Nederlanders naar hoogst voltooide opleiding, 1997 (personen van 20 jaar en ouder)

-Personen in niet verstedelijkte gebieden zijn gemiddeld bijna 2 cm langer dan personen in sterk verstedelijkte gebieden.

Lichaamslengte van Nederlanders naar stedelijkheid woongemeente, 1997 (personen van 20 jaar en ouder)

Overgewicht

In het algemeen worden onder- en overgewicht uitgedrukt met de Quetelet Index (QI). Vier van de tien volwassen Nederlanders hebben een QI van 25 of hoger en zijn dus te zwaar. Van ernstig overgewicht – uitgedrukt met een QI van 30 of meer – heeft 8% last.

Met name in de leeftijdsgroep 65-74 jaar is het percentage personen met overgewicht relatief hoog. Van deze ouderen heeft 57% een QI van 25 of meer.

Sedert 1981 is het percentage volwassenen met ernstig overgewicht – dus een QI van 30 of meer – met gemiddeld 0,2 procentpunt per jaar gestegen.

In het algemeen hebben naar verhouding meer lager dan hoger opgeleiden last van (ernstig) overgewicht.

Overgewicht van Nederlanders naar hoogst voltooide opleiding, 1997 (personen van 20 jaar en ouder)

[B]IN ENGLISH[/B]
How long the Netherlands is the tallest people in the world?

quote: The Dutch are the tallest people in the world, but for how long? Research shows that the average length of Dutch the last 13 years has not increased and that is exceptional. The last 160 years has not happened before.

http://nos.nl/video/163559-hoe-lang-is-nederland-nog-het-langste-volk-ter-wereld.html

Dutch longer and heavier

The adult resident of the Netherlands is on average 173.5 cm long. Adult men are on average 180 cm long, 13 cm longer than adult women.

Higher education are on average longer than less educated. The difference between the lowest and highest educational level is nearly 7 cm. This is partly due to the fact men and young people in general better educated than women and the elderly. If taken into account, differences in the lowest and highest education still 3 cm in body length.

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SUMMARY OF DUTCH DATA

Dutch data:
De volwassen inwoner van Nederland is gemiddeld 173,5 cm lang. Volwassen mannen zijn gemiddeld 180 cm lang, 13 cm langer dan volwassen vrouwen.

English translation:
[b]The adult resident of the Netherlands is on average 173.5 cm long. Adult men are on average 180 cm long, 13 cm longer than adult women.[/b]

Which is still shorter than the DInka studies...

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LYNN AND VANHAVEN'S IQ AND THE WEALTH OF NATIONS DEBUNKED

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/race-iq-and-wealth/
another critique- mises.org/daily/2677

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HBD ANCIENT 'CAUCASOID' "COGNITIVE REVOLUTION"CLAIMS DEBUNKED

www.anth.uconn.edu/faculty/mcbrearty/Pdf/McB%20&%20Brooks%202000%20TRTW.pdf

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